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  • #111197
    SRQFlyer
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    3 hours ago, Nhathuy said:

    Encrypt World of tanks folder or all subfolders and files?

    That would do absolutely nothing.  

    #111198
    kupjones
    Member

    What SRQ said — complete waste of time. 

    #111199
    Nhathuy
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    22 hours ago, SRQFlyer said:

    That would do absolutely nothing.  

    Sorry are u sure? Even if I encrypt all files and folders?

    #111200
    SRQFlyer
    Participant
    50 minutes ago, Nhathuy said:

    Sorry are u sure? Even if I encrypt all files and folders?

    Do you understand what encryption does? What do you think it does?  

    How would any application run if everything was encrypted, apps could not read their own files.  Once an application is running, Windows will automatically un-encrypt any files the application needs. Encryption is transparent to apps running in windows.  As for locking the python log, if it makes you feel better go for it, that also make no difference, and the game just reads from memory.

    #111201
    kupjones
    Member
    4 hours ago, Nhathuy said:

    Sorry are u sure? Even if I encrypt all files and folders?

    #111202
    On 8. 2. 2017 at 6:32 PM, kupjones said:

    You are wrong son. Private key contained in personal certificate which is created in first moment of encryption is used for encryption/decryption. So even creating account with same user name and password will not help you to recover encrypted files, you must have that certificate exported with private key.

    You should be ashamed to say that you have done that for living…

    #111203
    SRQFlyer
    Participant

    Not at all correct.  Windows does not use a certificate it uses public key encryption in conjunction with symmetric key encryption. These keys are tied to you Windows User Certificate (aka UserID)

    From https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc962103.aspx
    The file encryption key (FEK) — a symmetric bulk encryption key — is used to encrypt the file and is then itself encrypted by using the public key taken from the user’s certificate, which is located in the user’s profile. The encrypted FEK is stored with the encrypted file and is unique to it. To decrypt the FEK, EFS uses the encryptor’s private key which only the file encryptor has.

    We try not to get into too low level of detail here as most people would not understand what a certificate is and it would add no value. 

    #111204
    A_Troll
    Member
    4 hours ago, SRQFlyer said:

    Not at all correct.  Windows does not use a certificate it uses public key encryption in conjunction with symmetric key encryption. These keys are tied to you Windows User Certificate (aka UserID)

    From https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc962103.aspx
    The file encryption key (FEK) — a symmetric bulk encryption key — is used to encrypt the file and is then itself encrypted by using the public key taken from the user’s certificate, which is located in the user’s profile. The encrypted FEK is stored with the encrypted file and is unique to it. To decrypt the FEK, EFS uses the encryptor’s private key which only the file encryptor has.

    We try not to get into too low level of detail here as most people would not understand what a certificate is and it would add no value. 

    Yeah…… What he said.

    #111205
    kupjones
    Member
    12 hours ago, StringBuilder said:

    You are wrong son. Private key contained in personal certificate which is created in first moment of encryption is used for encryption/decryption. So even creating account with same user name and password will not help you to recover encrypted files, you must have that certificate exported with private key.

    You should be ashamed to say that you have done that for living…

    LOL — I believe SRQ said it quite well.  String, I have nothing to be ashamed of when I try to keep things at a fairly simple level.  If you read that quote again you will notice the very clever use of the phrase “hold the key” as in “provide the path” or “hold the secret”.  I know what is used and how it is used — but there was no need to go into that kind of detail.  Note that I never said “your userid/password ***IS** the key” (although I suppose one could even argue that THAT phrase is a literary turn).

    You should be ashamed for being so literal <g>.  But then, I am being quite lighthearted whereas ………

    #111206
    22 hours ago, SRQFlyer said:

    Not at all correct.  Windows does not use a certificate it uses public key encryption in conjunction with symmetric key encryption. These keys are tied to you Windows User Certificate (aka UserID)

    From https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc962103.aspx
    The file encryption key (FEK) — a symmetric bulk encryption key — is used to encrypt the file and is then itself encrypted by using the public key taken from the user’s certificate, which is located in the user’s profile. The encrypted FEK is stored with the encrypted file and is unique to it. To decrypt the FEK, EFS uses the encryptor’s private key which only the file encryptor has.

    We try not to get into too low level of detail here as most people would not understand what a certificate is and it would add no value. 

    So, you are saying that you can not decrypt encrypted files on another system if you have only that certificate with private key?

    #111207
    SRQFlyer
    Participant
    55 minutes ago, StringBuilder said:

    So, you are saying that you can not decrypt encrypted files on another system if you have only that certificate with private key?

    If you read the link it will detail how you can recover the non public key to decrypt. In general you can not copy the files to another system and decrypt, if you used Windows encryption. But in general with Windows encryption you can not copy encrypted files to another computer and decrypt.  When law enforcement tries to recover encrypted files, they do it through the OS and not file by file.

    #111208
    1 hour ago, SRQFlyer said:

    If you read the link it will detail how you can recover the non public key to decrypt. In general you can not copy the files to another system and decrypt, if you used Windows encryption. But in general with Windows encryption you can not copy encrypted files to another computer and decrypt.  When law enforcement tries to recover encrypted files, they do it through the OS and not file by file.

    Consider following scenario: I will encrypt some files on flash drive formatted to NTFS or external HDD, then try to access it on another computer from windows. Would it work if I import that certificate on that second computer? BTW there are lot of other ways to access encrypted files (in their encrypted form) out of OS.

    #111209
    kupjones
    Member

    Maybe you guys should agree on what “I will encrypt some files” actually means, since the context determines whether or not a decryption will work.   For instance, I can clearly use my public key to encrypt any file that I want, transport that file, and use my private key to decrypt said file on any other platform.  In this case we have a platform independent encryption/decryption scenario.  Such does not apply to all scenarios.   Ref:   My discussion of SED’s as an example.

    #111210
    SRQFlyer
    Participant
    2 hours ago, kupjones said:

    Maybe you guys should agree on what “I will encrypt some files” actually means, since the context determines whether or not a decryption will work.   For instance, I can clearly use my public key to encrypt any file that I want, transport that file, and use my private key to decrypt said file on any other platform.  In this case we have a platform independent encryption/decryption scenario.  Such does not apply to all scenarios.   Ref:   My discussion of SED’s as an example.

    you are 100% correct.  Just to add, anything encrypted by the OS, will be decrypted by any app running in the user in the OS.  This negates Windows encryption for “protecting” files.  If you use non-windows encryption, the game will not run as it can not access its own files.

    #111211
    16 hours ago, SRQFlyer said:

    This negates Windows encryption for “protecting” files.

    It is protecting your files from other users on same computer, even administrators. It also protects your files against users who steal your HDD.

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