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07.02.2017 at 12:23 #111197SRQFlyerParticipant3 hours ago, Nhathuy said:
Encrypt World of tanks folder or all subfolders and files?
That would do absolutely nothing.
07.02.2017 at 16:01 #111198kupjonesMemberWhat SRQ said — complete waste of time.
08.02.2017 at 11:22 #111199NhathuyParticipant22 hours ago, SRQFlyer said:That would do absolutely nothing.
Sorry are u sure? Even if I encrypt all files and folders?
08.02.2017 at 12:19 #111200SRQFlyerParticipant50 minutes ago, Nhathuy said:Sorry are u sure? Even if I encrypt all files and folders?
Do you understand what encryption does? What do you think it does?
How would any application run if everything was encrypted, apps could not read their own files. Once an application is running, Windows will automatically un-encrypt any files the application needs. Encryption is transparent to apps running in windows. As for locking the python log, if it makes you feel better go for it, that also make no difference, and the game just reads from memory.
08.02.2017 at 17:32 #111201kupjonesMember4 hours ago, Nhathuy said:Sorry are u sure? Even if I encrypt all files and folders?
<a data-ipshover="" data-ipshover-target="/?app=core&module=members&controller=profile&id=2681&do=hovercard” href=”/?app=core&module=members&controller=profile&id=2681″ id=”ips_uid_8027_6″ rel=””>Nhathuy, we are quite sure. SRQ and I both have done this for a living — more years than I care to count. Ignoring for the moment SRQ’s explanation, simply ask yourself this: “If encrypting the disk would render the files unreadable, then how am I able to run WOT?” The answer: your windows userid/passwd hold the key to perform the decryption. Now, control-alt-delete, Task Manager, and look whose name WOT is running under.
13.02.2017 at 11:53 #111202StringBuilderMemberOn 8. 2. 2017 at 6:32 PM, kupjones said:your windows userid/passwd hold the key to perform the decryption
You are wrong son. Private key contained in personal certificate which is created in first moment of encryption is used for encryption/decryption. So even creating account with same user name and password will not help you to recover encrypted files, you must have that certificate exported with private key.
You should be ashamed to say that you have done that for living…
13.02.2017 at 12:14 #111203SRQFlyerParticipantNot at all correct. Windows does not use a certificate it uses public key encryption in conjunction with symmetric key encryption. These keys are tied to you Windows User Certificate (aka UserID)
From https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc962103.aspx
The file encryption key (FEK) — a symmetric bulk encryption key — is used to encrypt the file and is then itself encrypted by using the public key taken from the user’s certificate, which is located in the user’s profile. The encrypted FEK is stored with the encrypted file and is unique to it. To decrypt the FEK, EFS uses the encryptor’s private key which only the file encryptor has.We try not to get into too low level of detail here as most people would not understand what a certificate is and it would add no value.
13.02.2017 at 17:03 #111204A_TrollMember4 hours ago, SRQFlyer said:Not at all correct. Windows does not use a certificate it uses public key encryption in conjunction with symmetric key encryption. These keys are tied to you Windows User Certificate (aka UserID)
From https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc962103.aspx
The file encryption key (FEK) — a symmetric bulk encryption key — is used to encrypt the file and is then itself encrypted by using the public key taken from the user’s certificate, which is located in the user’s profile. The encrypted FEK is stored with the encrypted file and is unique to it. To decrypt the FEK, EFS uses the encryptor’s private key which only the file encryptor has.We try not to get into too low level of detail here as most people would not understand what a certificate is and it would add no value.
Yeah…… What he said.
14.02.2017 at 00:34 #111205kupjonesMember12 hours ago, StringBuilder said:You are wrong son. Private key contained in personal certificate which is created in first moment of encryption is used for encryption/decryption. So even creating account with same user name and password will not help you to recover encrypted files, you must have that certificate exported with private key.
You should be ashamed to say that you have done that for living…
LOL — I believe SRQ said it quite well. String, I have nothing to be ashamed of when I try to keep things at a fairly simple level. If you read that quote again you will notice the very clever use of the phrase “hold the key” as in “provide the path” or “hold the secret”. I know what is used and how it is used — but there was no need to go into that kind of detail. Note that I never said “your userid/password ***IS** the key” (although I suppose one could even argue that THAT phrase is a literary turn).
You should be ashamed for being so literal <g>. But then, I am being quite lighthearted whereas ………
14.02.2017 at 10:59 #111206StringBuilderMember22 hours ago, SRQFlyer said:Not at all correct. Windows does not use a certificate it uses public key encryption in conjunction with symmetric key encryption. These keys are tied to you Windows User Certificate (aka UserID)
From https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc962103.aspx
The file encryption key (FEK) — a symmetric bulk encryption key — is used to encrypt the file and is then itself encrypted by using the public key taken from the user’s certificate, which is located in the user’s profile. The encrypted FEK is stored with the encrypted file and is unique to it. To decrypt the FEK, EFS uses the encryptor’s private key which only the file encryptor has.We try not to get into too low level of detail here as most people would not understand what a certificate is and it would add no value.
So, you are saying that you can not decrypt encrypted files on another system if you have only that certificate with private key?
14.02.2017 at 12:01 #111207SRQFlyerParticipant55 minutes ago, StringBuilder said:So, you are saying that you can not decrypt encrypted files on another system if you have only that certificate with private key?
If you read the link it will detail how you can recover the non public key to decrypt. In general you can not copy the files to another system and decrypt, if you used Windows encryption. But in general with Windows encryption you can not copy encrypted files to another computer and decrypt. When law enforcement tries to recover encrypted files, they do it through the OS and not file by file.
14.02.2017 at 13:08 #111208StringBuilderMember1 hour ago, SRQFlyer said:If you read the link it will detail how you can recover the non public key to decrypt. In general you can not copy the files to another system and decrypt, if you used Windows encryption. But in general with Windows encryption you can not copy encrypted files to another computer and decrypt. When law enforcement tries to recover encrypted files, they do it through the OS and not file by file.
Consider following scenario: I will encrypt some files on flash drive formatted to NTFS or external HDD, then try to access it on another computer from windows. Would it work if I import that certificate on that second computer? BTW there are lot of other ways to access encrypted files (in their encrypted form) out of OS.
14.02.2017 at 13:20 #111209kupjonesMemberMaybe you guys should agree on what “I will encrypt some files” actually means, since the context determines whether or not a decryption will work. For instance, I can clearly use my public key to encrypt any file that I want, transport that file, and use my private key to decrypt said file on any other platform. In this case we have a platform independent encryption/decryption scenario. Such does not apply to all scenarios. Ref: My discussion of SED’s as an example.
14.02.2017 at 15:29 #111210SRQFlyerParticipant2 hours ago, kupjones said:Maybe you guys should agree on what “I will encrypt some files” actually means, since the context determines whether or not a decryption will work. For instance, I can clearly use my public key to encrypt any file that I want, transport that file, and use my private key to decrypt said file on any other platform. In this case we have a platform independent encryption/decryption scenario. Such does not apply to all scenarios. Ref: My discussion of SED’s as an example.
you are 100% correct. Just to add, anything encrypted by the OS, will be decrypted by any app running in the user in the OS. This negates Windows encryption for “protecting” files. If you use non-windows encryption, the game will not run as it can not access its own files.
15.02.2017 at 08:16 #111211StringBuilderMember16 hours ago, SRQFlyer said:This negates Windows encryption for “protecting” files.
It is protecting your files from other users on same computer, even administrators. It also protects your files against users who steal your HDD.
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